I recall reading Holmgren's amazing QB performances in college, and as a coach he DID win two rings, one with Seattle a team I never thought would win any let alone 2. Surely every bit as deserving as Seifert, if not more, but I consider George an asterisk candidate (Walsh!). On balance, with Holmgren's OC credentials, I certainly agree that it is difficult to separate him from Shanahan
Sounds revolutionary Shaughnessy does, and quite deserving in a story well told Frank! I've already given my nod to Shanahan in a previous comment, but even as a 49er faithful fan, I do not see George Seifert in the same category...I get he was a defensive guru, and is credited with 2 Super Bowl wins but didn't he take Walsh's team and squeeze out another one from them? Please talk me down from this negativity since this is merely my impression, I have no facts to back it up, and I'd love to be flat wrong!
I understand it is not natural to prefer somebody you have not seen and know, such as Shaughnessy. But he belongs in the HOF and if not now, then when? As for Shanahan, he certainly has created an impressive coaching tree. After Shaughnessy I cannot separate Shanahan and Holmgren, although I haven't tried. I am not dinging Holmgren, from SF's Lincoln High, for beating the Hell out of my Balboa High 50-something to some teens number. He could throw the hell out of the ball. Brilliant move to go to USC, which was then Tailback U. That reminds me, two coaches in the running for HOF were SF City prep players -- Holmgren at Lincoln and George Seifert at Polytechnic, across from old Kezar Stadium.
I recall reading Holmgren's amazing QB performances in college, and as a coach he DID win two rings, one with Seattle a team I never thought would win any let alone 2. Surely every bit as deserving as Seifert, if not more, but I consider George an asterisk candidate (Walsh!). On balance, with Holmgren's OC credentials, I certainly agree that it is difficult to separate him from Shanahan
Sounds revolutionary Shaughnessy does, and quite deserving in a story well told Frank! I've already given my nod to Shanahan in a previous comment, but even as a 49er faithful fan, I do not see George Seifert in the same category...I get he was a defensive guru, and is credited with 2 Super Bowl wins but didn't he take Walsh's team and squeeze out another one from them? Please talk me down from this negativity since this is merely my impression, I have no facts to back it up, and I'd love to be flat wrong!
I understand it is not natural to prefer somebody you have not seen and know, such as Shaughnessy. But he belongs in the HOF and if not now, then when? As for Shanahan, he certainly has created an impressive coaching tree. After Shaughnessy I cannot separate Shanahan and Holmgren, although I haven't tried. I am not dinging Holmgren, from SF's Lincoln High, for beating the Hell out of my Balboa High 50-something to some teens number. He could throw the hell out of the ball. Brilliant move to go to USC, which was then Tailback U. That reminds me, two coaches in the running for HOF were SF City prep players -- Holmgren at Lincoln and George Seifert at Polytechnic, across from old Kezar Stadium.